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« Reply #375 on May 18, 2012, 1:59am » | |
May 17, 2012, 7:18pm, chud wrote:Ryan Cook is beyond impressive. That's now 19.2 innings without giving up a run. Opponents are hitting .066 have an OBP of .197 and a SLG of .098. DOMINATING!
What he did this afternoon was nothing short of miraculous. Kudos Mr. Cook, kudos!
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I'm not an advocate for blaming anything on bad calls. I don't believe a bad call in the NFL or NBA has ever decided a game. The better team usually wins. It's also a reason I think soccer sucks, because awarding a team a goal for a bad call in the box when the teams combine to score two goals per game collectively is horse shit.
"Horse Shit," is a phrase (A's manager) Bob Melvin likes a lot, and he got thrown out tonight. I am decent at reading lips. The bad call didn't decided the game, like a bad call in soccer will, but I've been thinking about a more impactful bad call in baseball, and I'm lost (especially since HRs are reviewed).
For the 13 reading this, and the four who care, the situation went like this. First and third with one out in the 6th, game tied 3-3, the Rangers called the suicide squeeze. The hitter bunted the ball in the air, and the pitcher dove to catch it. He immediately threw the ball to third to complete the double play. Inning over. Except, the umpire determined the pitcher trapped the ball, so the go ahead run scored, the throw to third meant nothing, and the hitter was awarded first base. You know the saying, "if you give a team an extra out, they will make you pay." The umpire gave the Rangers two extras outs, gave them the go ahead run, and gave them an extra base runner. That game could have been 15-3 by the end of the inning with the Rangers high octane offense. Replays showed the call was blown, big time.
Can you think of a situation where a bad call could affect a game more than this one? I've been pondering it for a couple hours now, and the only thing I can think of is if the same play happened in the ninth with the hitting team down by one.
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« Reply #376 on May 18, 2012, 9:32am » | |
The only situation I can think of that would be more horendous would be if the bases were juiced with two outs in the bottom of the ninth home team down one or tied and you get a swinging strike three during which the umpire calls catcher interference.
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« Reply #377 on May 18, 2012, 11:43pm » | |
May 18, 2012, 1:59am, wonk wrote:| Can you think of a situation where a bad call could affect a game more than this one? I've been pondering it for a couple hours now, and the only thing I can think of is if the same play happened in the ninth with the hitting team down by one. |
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How about a team is up 2-0 in a best of five ALDS when a runner rounding third base (the go-ahead run) is obstructed by the third baseman and the umpire throws up his hands to call obstruction. The base-runner sees said obstruction call and jogs to home plate, only to be tagged by the catcher and called out.
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I understand that some view the call as a correct judgment of rule 7.06. I believe it's horseshit (and Bob Melvin agrees).
Link to discussion about the play: http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dorf/20031013.html
EDIT: I've done a bit of reading on the rule, and I think Tejada probably did not understand that there are two types of interference. My issue is that the umpire needs to make a judgment call as to whether the runner would've (potentially) advanced to the next base had the obstruction not occurred. If the umpire deems that it would be a close call without the obstruction, he MUST award the base to the runner. Since Tejada decided to jog to home, the umpire decided that it wasn't a close play, and that he should be out.
My quibble is that had there not been any interference at all, Tejada would've continued running home and potentially scored the go-ahead run; Hence making it a close play. An umpire throwing their hands up and yelling "Interference" is as much of a distraction as the initial interference. Had Mueller not made contact with Tejada, he may have scored (he also may have been thrown out, but it still would've been a close play). When the umpire called interference, he changed the eventual outcome of the play. The intent of the rule is to award an extra base if (without interference) the runner would've made it a close play. I believe the ruling was horseshit.
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« Reply #378 on May 19, 2012, 6:35pm » | |
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I was going to utilize that exact play as an example, but I couldn't find a video clip of it so I passed. Glad to see it got represented in the discussion.
and yes...TOTAL HORSESHIT!
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« Reply #379 on May 19, 2012, 10:43pm » | |
I am pretty sure the Mariners just used up next weeks run production today...well at least it was a fun game 
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« Reply #380 on May 19, 2012, 11:52pm » | |
Always nice to see the Os sweep a Beltway Series!
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« Reply #381 on May 30, 2012, 10:17pm » | |
WHOA, run scoring central over here with the Mariners. Too bad we only pull these series out of our ass a couple times a month
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« Reply #382 on Jun 1, 2012, 7:37pm » | |
Am I the only one who finds it hilarious that days after Henry Rodriguez loses his closers job, he gets injured "slamming the door," on his finger? There are at least 15 jokes to be made here.
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« Reply #383 on Jun 9, 2012, 11:36pm » | |
The Minnesota Twins are 9.5 games behind the Tampa Bay Devil Rays. The worst team in the AL is 9.5 games behind the best team in the AL? The Braves blew a bigger lead in a little over a month last season to gift the Cardinals an eventual title. That shit cray.
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« Reply #385 on Jun 12, 2012, 11:10pm » | |
Wow! The A's with a win, 4 homers and a save. I'll be darned.
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« Reply #386 on Jul 1, 2012, 2:17pm » | |
The MLB All-Stars were announced today. My first thought was, "fuck, I'm going to spend the next 15 minutes trying to find out who actually made the team." It happens every year. The MLB All-Star announcement is as insignificant as Tiger Woods banging a prostitute. All I want is to click on a link that shows me who made the team. In an industry that makes shit up when there is nothing to talk about, I don't get why this is completely overlooked. Case in point, the following links come from espn.com, and they are headlines. Tell me how long it takes you to Dr. Garbanzoure out who is the All-Star from the A's and Mariners. Just for fun, pretend you're deaf (because there are links to videos).
http://espn.go.com/mlb/allstar12/story/_....te-al-st arters
http://espn.go.com/mlb/allstar12/story/_....keys-lineu p-nl
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« Reply #387 on Jul 2, 2012, 3:54pm » | |
Apparently neither team has an All-Star.
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« Reply #388 on Jul 7, 2012, 12:42am » | |
.500, 5 wins in a row, 16 straight games with a HR, 7 straight allowing 1 ER or less and Chris Carter having an impact. I'M LOVING BASEBALL RIGHT ABOUT NOW!!! ME GUSTA BEISBOL!!!
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« Reply #389 on Jul 7, 2012, 1:09am » | |
Fellow A's fans, if you have yet to download the free 95.7 FM The Game app, do so.
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